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Episode #3 of The Dresden Files brings werewolves into the picture and another pretty decent and watchable plot. But sorry, folks, this still ain't Harry Dresden we're watching here.


In the books, Harry Dresden would never, ever, ever need to pull a gun on an attacking werewolf. I mean, for fuck's sake, he's a wizard. He does not have to bother with a gun. He is his own offensive weapon. One good "fuego!" is all Harry needs to give an oncoming werewolf an introduction to the smell of burnt fur.

And really, this so far is a prime example of why, while I'm liking this show quite well and am enjoying the storylines, this dude Paul Blackthorne is playing just isn't [livejournal.com profile] jimbutcher's Harry Dresden. I can grant that three episodes into a brand new show about a wizard might be a little soon to see him make with the seriously offensive magic, but even given TV Harry rather than Book Harry, wouldn't you think that a guy who's supposed to be a wizard would actually do some magic rather than pull a gun when he's confronted with a pissed off werewolf?

We've barely seen TV Harry do any magic at all, really. What stuff he's done on his own (i.e., without Bob's assistance) has been strictly low-key stuff so far. In this particular episode, sure, he actually did two pretty cool things--the thing with the mirror where he had Heather the New Werewolf Chick look into the mirror and ID the FBI chick, and the thing where he set up the image of himself in the jail cell to cover his escape. But we have yet to see TV Harry do anything even remotely on the scale of what Book Harry was doing right out of the gate in Storm Front.

So I'm really, really hoping that the series is going to maybe work up to that. I can deal with TV Harry starting out at a lesser degree of power if we're going to see him work his way up to a greater one. I'm willing to be patient and wait and see so far just on the grounds that I am actually enjoying what's going on--all three episodes have been enjoyable, with some fun effects (I really liked Bob touching the bloodstains and morphing into the shape of who'd left the blood, that was cool), and decent plots.

And I liked Heather the Werewolf Chick, and bought the chemistry between her and Harry. I liked the idea that the FBI chick was herself a werewolf desperately trying to de-fur, and OH THE IRONY about her boyfriend winding up being the ninth required victim to break the curse on her. Nice little closing touch on that episode. I liked that Murphy is starting to show signs of interest in Harry, even something so small as asking him if she could buy him a beer. Very casual, just a nice little hint of future deeper interest.

But this still isn't Book Harry. We'll have to see if TV Harry and Book Harry eventually converge.


ETA 6:10pm: I have since rethought my position a little, thanks to several good comments on this thread as well as listening to the various episodes of the Butcher Block podcast. Thanks to all who have replied, and thanks to [livejournal.com profile] gamera_spinning for the last nudge I got about the podcast!

Date: 2007-02-12 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mysticmoose.livejournal.com
I was disappointed with last night's episode. I liked the first two episodes a lot, but I guess this time I didn't really buy into the chemistry between Harry and the werewolf lady; it seemed rather forced and predictable. Actually, the whole episode seemed sort of cheesy, and while I realize that the show is supposed to be cheesy and fun I felt it distracted from the episode and made all the characters (including Harry) seem like tropes. Though I did really like the twist in the opening scene - that was great!

I'm looking forward to watching the next one - I agree that Harry has yet to display his magical chops - so far he's been more of a "knows he's living in a world of magic" sort of guy than an "actually a part of the world of magic" wizard.

Date: 2007-02-12 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosepurr.livejournal.com
I haven't been thrilled with show. It's missing some element of soul that I loved from the books.

Date: 2007-02-12 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowhwk.livejournal.com
Harry has never, to my recollection, been shown as fearless. If I had a large scary thing bearing down on me, were I a wizard, I might reach for something other than my usual bag of tricks to fight back with too. So I don't think the gun was out of place.

I also assumed, being as Harry knows about werewolves, that there might be silver bullets in said gun. As FBI werewolf lost her fur when her boyfriend died, there might very well *have* been, but since she became human, it wouldn't do anything other than, you know, make holes.

As regards magic, yes, Harry advertises in the phone book, but how much magic can we really expect him to want to flash around if he doesn't need to? Mundane people in Harry's Chicago still don't believe in that sort of thing as a general rule.

Date: 2007-02-12 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosepurr.livejournal.com
I think I miss the overarching storylines that stretch back before the books begin and always exist in the background- I'm sure that they will appear, but I don't think I'm hooked without them.

Date: 2007-02-12 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seattlesparks.livejournal.com
See, for me, I had the opposite reaction. I went, "Oh, they're starting to pull storyline from the books!"

As for the blasting staff... 'Fuego' doesn't work too well against werewolves. As I recall from the books, it knocks 'em down, makes 'em smell like a burnt, wet rug, and a minute or two later they're up and healing and on your case. I don't have the books handy right now, and I'm fairly tired, but I'm pretty sure in the 'FBI werewolves trying to EAT US ALL RAWR' subplot of one of the earlier books, Harry ended up having to rely on Murphy with a gun. (Someone who has the books handy and remembers which one that's in, correct me if I'm wrong...)

Atop which, I'm pretty sure the hockey stick with the esoteric symbols carved into the side -- the one he dropped in the scuffle -- /is/ his "make things go boom" staff (since we see him with it in the opening credits). While I doubt a gun would be Harry's first choice, I can completely see him picking one up if it was closer than the staff.

Especially given that Fuego's a temporary solution at best, and crazy FBI boyfriend might've had a gun loaded with silver bullets (since he /was/ hunting werewolves)...

At any rate, I still quite like the show as well. And while I do still think it differs from the books in some significant ways (though ghost-Bob is starting to grow on me!), I just didn't find this particular bit terribly jarring. :)

Date: 2007-02-12 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agrimony.livejournal.com
I also think the point with the gun was to make her come after him, not so much to kill her. He didn't seem at all surprised when boyfriend popped up and gave him a chance to redirect her cleverly by referring to him with the other chick's name.

Date: 2007-02-12 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seattlesparks.livejournal.com
I haven't listened to the podcast, and I picked up on it!

Really, though, I only did so because they show him holding it up in a staff-like 'You Shall Not Pass!' manner in the opening credits! ;)

Date: 2007-02-12 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seattlesparks.livejournal.com
*Tracks down part of a review of Fool Moon from Amazon, emphasis mine.*

Actually he is a wizard/gumshoe with the kind of do-gooder streak that is a cinch to cause trouble. In this volume Dresden is trying to solve a serial killer problem which seems to involve several different kinds of werewolves. These range from nasty people who think they are wolves right up to the honest-to-God tear-you-and-all-your-friends-to-pieces loup-garou. Inevitably Harry goes into each struggle well armed with wands, charms, and even guns. And inevitably he drops or loses all of them. In fact your first warning that Harry is going to get flattened again is when he points his magic wand.

One of Harry's skills is the ability to alienate almost everyone. So this time Harry is not only dodging werewolves, he is also being chased by Chicago's number one gangster and all of the local FBI. Nor are the local cops fond of him. After the FBI manages to capture the loup-garou and lock him in a police holding tank, Harry manages to not get to the police station quite on time. Before Harry can do anything most of the occupants of the building are dead. What does Harry finally do? He blasts an invincible werewolf straight through the station's walls and several nearby buildings before setting him down so that the wolf can escape. Not too bright is our Harry!


So I think the FBI involvement (granted, I recall the FBI agents NOT being werewolves until they were bitten by the one they stupidly locked up) and the use of guns both are in keeping with book-Harry's adventures. TV-Harry just learned from book-Harry, and was just smart enough not to try Fuego'ing a werewolf through a wall. ;)

Date: 2007-02-12 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seattlesparks.livejournal.com
Well, there's a heck of a lot of Harry to keep track of, at this point! I know I personally only remembered the FBI involvement because there was a passing reference to it in a more recent book (either Dead Beat or Proven Guilty, I can't recall which, but I think it was Proven Guilty).

But yeah, I'm tempted to reread the earlier ones myself, before White Knight comes out in a month and a half. :)

Date: 2007-02-12 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowhwk.livejournal.com
He did actually shoot her. Several times, actually. I know she lost her fur because her boyfriend died :) but what I'm saying is, we don't know whether the bullets were silver or not because, since she lost her fur, silver bullets would not do anything to a normal human other than leave holes. So we don't get the discussion of silver or not. I assumed they were, is all.

Date: 2007-02-12 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starsongky.livejournal.com
But I'm not sure a casual viewer would have picked up on that; I certainly didn't!

Having never read the books, I had no clue about any Staff o' Doom, and was wondering what the heck he was doing with a hockey stick. I thought perhaps they were mixing beasties, and he planned on using it to stake them like vampires. Though now that I stop to think about it, that doesn't make sense either, since he had the silver spikes.

Date: 2007-02-12 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firni.livejournal.com
The part I liked the best was how the closed-captioning kept spelling it "lichenthropy" and "lichens".

HARRY'S GONNA GO KILL SOME LICHENS

Date: 2007-02-13 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firni.livejournal.com
What's funny is, I didn't even realize it was based on a book series until you guys mentioned it.

I'm so sheltered.

However, I did manage to name my blood elf mage "Zerika"... ALL HAIL STEVEN BRUST

Date: 2007-02-14 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firni.livejournal.com
Just now, on a Stargate episode, they spelled "joules" as "jewels".

Date: 2007-02-14 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] backrubbear.livejournal.com
I've never read the Dresden books, although my Chris has. I've been enjoying things in the absence of any knowledge of the books, although it's been a little slow. Chris on the other hand has noted that the sheer difference in the worlds is probably enough to throw off any fan of the book series.

I think I'm fortunate that when the execution of a movie or tv show is so far off from the original that I stop even trying to connect the two. It's when they get very close that I actually start getting annoyed by missing or incorrect details.

Date: 2007-02-14 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firni.livejournal.com
If they have to defib me, I'd like 200 emeralds, please.

Date: 2007-02-15 07:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firni.livejournal.com
Phoenix Empress of the Draegerans (or however you spell that).

READ THE TALTOS BOOKS, I COMMAND THEE

Get thee hence to teh library, woman.

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