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Picoreview: mmm, GRIM!

Of course, it couldn't be anything BUT grim coming back from that last cliffhanger, now could it? But I gotta say, tonight's episode delivered the grim in spades, and we are definitely upholding the principle of not so much enjoying Battlestar as surviving Battlestar.

Welcome back, BSG. We missed you!


First up: Dee. Oh, honey. I certainly had my issues in the past with Dee and Lee as a couple, but oh man, what a way to go out. Sniff. And a general cry of AUGH to the writing staff for pushing the knife in just a little bit more for having her blow her brains out right after going out with Lee, too. AUGH.

Second up: Oof, the scene with Roslin burning her copy of the Pythian Prophecies. And her voice all high and strained as she told Bill not to touch her. AUGH.

Third: The look on Bill's face as Roslin told him to fuck off. He was still kind of holding it together at that point, but then Dee's shooting herself in the head sucker-punched him. Oh man, that raw agony in his face when he finds Lee there with her body. And oh Jesus, the scene where he goes to try to provoke Tigh into shooting HIM. AUGH.

Fourth: STARBUCK! Finding her OWN BODY! Extra bonus points for [livejournal.com profile] solarbird and [livejournal.com profile] spazzkat calling that very plot point about five minutes before it happened. Weird enough that she freaked Leoben out, not to mention the rest of us. I can hear the cry of "DA HELL?!" resounding all over Fandom tonight. Except from Dara. She was doing the I'm Right Dance as soon as the episode ended, now that we have conclusive on-screen proof that there are forces at work here besides the humans and the Cylons.

But don't worry, Kara. You're still my and Dara's crazy, crazy apocalypse harbinger of death TV girlfriend! <3

Which of course brings me around to the Cylon half of the show, and the ever so intriguing development that all of the dead bodies the landing teams were finding were Cylon. And that the Final Four1 were all remembering having lived on Earth before. Which leads in turn to the 13th Tribe having been Cylon.

AND ELLEN AS THE LAST ONE! Not so much with the seeing that coming, either!

Paul was underwhelmed by that and proclaimed it anticlimactic. Dara on the other hand liked it and proclaimed it appropriately fucked up. Me, I'm leaning towards liking it, if nothing else because it does give poor Tigh a bit of a crumb of happiness, and it raises the interesting question of whether Ellen will be reborn at some point before the series ends.

And, well, yeah, appropriately fucked up as well. No wonder their relationship was so broken during the whole show. ;)

Nice start for the final run, y'all. Keep it coming!

1 I still can't think "the Final Four" without thinking of Kentucky basketball.

Date: 2009-01-17 06:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firni.livejournal.com
P wants the writing staff to choke to death on a 23" chrome-plated Centurion... um... something.

Date: 2009-01-17 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] llachglin.livejournal.com
I do so like the grim, and I love this show.

Put me in the camp of liking that Ellen is the last cylon. I didn't think it could be one of the top four characters (Adama, Lee, Kara, Roslin), Baltar was pretty much already out of the picture, and the other options I was settling on (Gaeta, Dee--until she shot herself, maybe Zarek?) would have been less dramatic. Really, Tigh is one of the best characters on the show, and Ellen as a cylon just gives him so much more to play with.

Date: 2009-01-17 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solarbird.livejournal.com
Zarek would have been pretty cool too. But I guess he's not.

I was rooting for Galactica itself really. ^_^

Date: 2009-01-17 08:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wrog.livejournal.com
no more Blakes7 for j00!

Date: 2009-01-17 08:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wrog.livejournal.com
meanwhile I'm still trying to figure out how they can go from not being able to tell the difference between currently living Cylons and Humans except via the most technical labor-intensive/expensive procedures and only then with Brilliant Scientist Baltar overseeing things...

... to being able to immediately spot the difference in 2000-year-old bones?

Date: 2009-01-17 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firni.livejournal.com
Maybe it was the Cylons telling the difference and Baltar was just their mouthpiece?

Date: 2009-01-17 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sianmink.livejournal.com
cut the bones and count the rings?

Fuck if I know.

Date: 2009-01-18 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wrog.livejournal.com
it's more a question of, if the differences are so subtle that it requires Brilliant Scientist to come up with a test that's actually reliable (which, to be fair, he accomplished, even if he never had occasion to let on that it actually worked, and which, to be fair, I never really bought in the first place [i.e., that the kinds of differences exhibited between "new" model Cylons and Humans could ever possibly be that subtle in the first place]...), how is anything discernible going to remain after 2000 years of weathering and decay?
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Date: 2009-01-18 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agrumer.livejournal.com
Kara's clearly a Terminator.

Date: 2009-01-18 08:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kairee.livejournal.com
Talked a bit with a friend of mine tonight over RL RPGing. She has a certainty that while Ellen may be a Cylon, she is not "The Fifth". Something else is going on. I couldn't quite catch onto her reasons, not being such an avid follower of the plotlines.

Date: 2009-01-18 09:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starsongky.livejournal.com
Dee was a shocker, but it made sense in retrospect. She passed up the chance to be planetside again at New Caprica to stay on Pegasus, then Earth turns out to be crap too. With nothing left to live for, she chose to die happy.

And then President Lee, changing the official count ... OUCH!

Earth!Ellen sucks. I was rooting for Helo. That would've explained a lot about why the Cylons let him live on Caprica, toying with him instead of just shooting him. Full-Cylon Hera works too, they had to be able to breed once if there was a whole planet full of them. The flashbacks all looked like regular crowd scenes, not multiples of a few models.

Date: 2009-01-18 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] llachglin.livejournal.com
I've had a hunch for a long time that the "Final Five" type cylons do not create multiple instances of themselves at the same time. One of my earlier ideas was that they were replicated somehow through human DNA, which could explain how they could remain hidden for hundreds or thousands of years with no sign or memory of their existence. But the fact that the earlier models look exactly the same suggests I've got the mechanism wrong. But whatever it is, I doubt it's the Resurrection-ship style replication.

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